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I have seen the questions about the status issue regarding people in Canada applying for PR and whether or not it has to be kept valid etc because of the new Feb 05 policy.

I found some clips from CIC's policy's and explinations I thought I would put in a post. We have a few threads here, plus i've seen countless on other boards, so maybe this will help to clarify:
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IMM5289 - Inland spousal sponsorship guide, Page 26:
"You must have legal temporary residence status in Canada to remain in the country legally without the possibility of being removed. Having legal temporary residence status means you have a document issued by Citizenship and Immigration, which allows you to remain in Canada for the period of time specified on your visitor document (work permit, study permit) or on your temporary resident permit."

IMM5289 - Inland spousal sponsorship guide, Page 26:
"Although out-of-status spouses and common-law partners may now apply for permanent residence in the Spouse or Common-law Partner Class, persons without legal immigration status in Canada are unable to work or study and may be subject to removal proceedings at any time for failing to have or maintain legal immigration status in Canada."

IP08 - Spouse or common-law partner in Canada, Section 5.27:
"Applicants in this class must have valid temporary resident status on the date of application and on the date they receive permanent resident status. Applicants who do not have temporary resident status on the date of application or on the date that permanent resident status is received and persons who are living illegally in Canada or facing enforcement action are not members of the class and may be refused.

Applicants in this category are advised in the kit that in order to receive permanent residence, they must meet requirements:

* on the day we receive their application;
* while their application for permanent residence is in process; and
* when permanent residence is confirmed.


Applicants inquiring directly to any CIC office should be counselled to maintain their status throughout processing to avoid rendering themselves inadmissible as per A41 which states that a person is inadmissible for failing to comply with the Act."

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**I also wanted to add this in case we ever get a question regarding someone already issued a deportation letter, etc:

Q: Does this announcement mean that people under removal orders who are married to a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident will be able to stay in the country until their application is assessed?

A: Most spouses and common-law partners can stay in Canada while their application is being processed. However, applicants who are under an enforceable removal order and who are not permitted to have a hold put on their removal (administrative deferral of removal) will be required to leave Canada. Their application for permanent residence will continue to be processed and, if positive, the applicant will be able to return to Canada.

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I hope this helps everyone. I know it's been questioned a lot!
~Amanda
So I have to be legal when I receive PR? Yikes! I thought I could let my visitor visa expire and as long as I didn't work or study, I'd be fine.

I'm going to have to study this further.
Yes, I've read, called and read some more and then called again. You must maintain your legal status in Canada. If you have an application in progress, you just send off for the visitor extension and $75 and put that you are awaiting a decision. They won't deny you as you're not supposed to leave while it's in progress anyway LOL. I think it's all a ploy to get your $75. :P
Hello Amanda Dear - did you get your extension in the mail yet? Just wondering - they still havent pocessed mine :-/ They got it November 10. And still they said they havent gotten my background clearance :-( Stupid Waiting Game.
hey...

i've had my extension since the first week in November... they extended mine on Nov 3rd until May 20th... so yeah i've got it in hand already :)

Hopefully you'll get it by january! *hugs*
My husband applied for an extention in august which was sent to Mississauga from alberta. My husbands application was denied because of crimally inadmissablity. We are now applying for rehabilitation. My question is when I call about the visitors pass it says a decision will be made by march. Can he stay until a decision is made on the visitors pass?
Thanks, Mandy
Well, is he still currently in status now?... here legally until XXXX date? If so, then I would assume he could as long as he hasn't been issued a departure notice or removal order. In that case, he'll have to. Tho, if you are applying for rehabilitation i'm not sure what the grounds are on that... I would call and ask... tell them the situation in full and see what they say.

Goodluck!
Amanda,
Our lawyer has spoken to the woman that denied his visitors pass and he explain that he was inadmissable because of a bad cheque 8 years ago for 16 dollars which he is applying for rehabilitation. It is advised that he send the application for rehabilitation as well as visitors status at the same time. She said she would allow him to stay when it comes across her desk. I feel this is all a ploy for money as the visitors pass will now cost $200.00 and rehabilitation is anywhere between 200-1000. Geez, they know they will get this money and it seems the cost is going up and up. My husband did receive a removal order but apparently he has 90 days from the refusal to get his paperwork in. Do we have to reapply for pr after all of this again? We also filed for an appeal and received notice that they received it. How long would this take? Would we go for the appeal before the rehabilitation is considered? This is getting really confusing.
thanks, m
A bad cheque...????

I didn't think that bad debt or owing money was a factor one's immigration application...!!???

I thought applicants were examined for criminal activity. Owing money is a civil issue and not a criminal offence. I don't understand why writing a bad cheque for $16 would require rehabilitation....????
our friend was charged and convicted - that is where the problem is coming from. Seems rediculous but I guess they do not care about the extent of the offence - they just look at the record of the charge.

I would get some legal help. I would not know where to begin to offer you any useful advice. don't get discouraged - we are all hear cheering for you
Visitors records/visa's etc usually are only $75 (well for the extension, but given your situation, i'm assuming it's $200 because of having a conviction on his record.)

Your best bet would probably to be to re-apply after the rehabilitation. it would probably be quicker as well, appeals can take anywhere from 1-2 years, and I don't think that's even counting the rehab time. but I'm not expert, as Sharon said, I would definitly try to seek out some free legal advice from a consultant, etc or try to get ahold of the woman you referred to above from CIC that is more knowledgable on your specific case.

Goodluck and keep us updated!
JustMe Wrote:A bad cheque...????

I didn't think that bad debt or owing money was a factor one's immigration application...!!???

I thought applicants were examined for criminal activity. Owing money is a civil issue and not a criminal offence. I don't understand why writing a bad cheque for $16 would require rehabilitation....????


What she is speaking about is fraud. Deliberating writing a check without sufficient funds is considered an illegal activity. I know $16.00 bucks sounds like nothing, but writing bad checks is illegal.
yes, the amount would make us all think it is unfair... but deliberately writing a check you know is going to bounce or has fraudulent signatures on it is against the law - if someone wishes to persue it.

It the situation must have been extenuating for charges to have been laid and it go to court.
My husband comes from a small town where everyone knows everyone and he had his run in when he was young so I guess his luck had run out when the bad cheque was written. Anyways its been a long time since then and hopefully thats what immigration will see. We've seeked legal counsel and hopefully he can pull us through this. Thanks for your imput and I'll keep you all posted
mandy
JustMe Wrote:A bad cheque...????

I didn't think that bad debt or owing money was a factor one's immigration application...!!???

I thought applicants were examined for criminal activity. Owing money is a civil issue and not a criminal offence. I don't understand why writing a bad cheque for $16 would require rehabilitation....????

Writing bad checks can be a criminal offense, my sisters ex-husband wrote one and the company pressed charges when he would not pay, he was convicted, no time served but he has a criminal record now due to it.
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