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Andrew Coyne, National Post

Published: Saturday, September 23, 2006
Here's a statistic guaranteed to set your teeth on edge: Of the 15,000 Lebanese citizens evacuated from Beirut by Canadian Forces during last month's war -- the largest such operation this country has mounted since the Second World War, at a cost of $85-million -- some 7,000 are reported to have returned home. Home, as in Lebanon.
Why were Canadian ships sent thousands of miles across the sea to pluck another country's citizens out of harm's way? Because, as you well know, they are also Canadian citizens. That is, they are dual citizens, beneficiaries of a 1977 change in immigration legislation, and as such, though many have not lived or paid taxes in this country for several years, are entitled to all the protections the Canadian state affords.
Despite the public outrage this aroused at the time, the Harper government wisely decided the middle of a war was not the time to revisit the principle of dual citizenship: They were Canadian citizens, and that was that. But the war being now ended, the government is said to be considering whether to abolish this strangely ambivalent status, to which at least four million foreign-born Canadians, plus an uncounted number of native-born, lay claim.
If so, this would be an event of enormous symbolic importance. Moreover, it would fit this Prime Minister's broader aim, which is nothing less than to recast the meaning of Canadian nationhood -- as a moral project, in which we are collectively and individually engaged, rather than a simple dispenser of services; something that lays claims upon us, as much as it confers entitlements. And the very least claim it can make upon us is that we commit ourselves to it, to the exclusion of all others.
This asks no more of us than that we make a choice. It does not bind us permanently, nor does it impose any barrier to entry. We can be citizens of Lebanon first and then of Canada, or of Canada and then Lebanon. The only thing we can't do is be a citizen of both countries at the same time.
What's wrong with that? Nothing, if your view of nationhood is essentially service-based -- just as you can belong to two frequent-flier programs at the same time. But if you incline to a view of the nation as moral project, as a moral order we are in the process of constructing, then a higher degree of commitment is implied.
It seems to me that this latter view is pretty much intrinsic to the whole idea of nationhood. A nation is, after all, an abstraction. We know why we are members of a particular family or race or gender. But to say why we belong to a nation, especially this nation, requires us to give the matter some thought. And yet we know, intuitively, that it has something to do with moral purpose.
Provinces are essentially service-delivery agencies, inspiring the degree of loyalty that bloodless phrase deserves. But when we say we are Canadian, and swell with pride at the thought, it is because we invest it with some moral content. We associate the nation with our highest moral ambitions, as the vessel of our best selves.


The better solution in my opinion is to change the tax laws and require anyone with Canadian Citizenship to file a tax return on all income world wide regardless of where it was earned.

The US does this, if your a US Citizen your obligated to file a income tax return with the IRS for all income, even if it wasn't earned in the US. The IRS does give a pretty good exemption where most wont actually owe anything though.
I think this is a fantastic discussion that all new and potential immigrants should be following closely, and should give much personal thought to. I think it is wonderful that Canadians are engaging in this self-analysis, as it is; the US might be a stronger country if we did the same. Certainly we see it going on all over the world, in England and throughout Europe, as we are confronted with new ideas and ideals. What makes us a citizen of our country, of our histories and also of where we are headed? And what does that mean for the prospective immigrant, who leaves it behind for something new but equally as important and strong? Good stuff, here.
wannabecanadian Wrote:I think this is a fantastic discussion that all new and potential immigrants should be following closely, and should give much personal thought to. I think it is wonderful that Canadians are engaging in this self-analysis, as it is; the US might be a stronger country if we did the same. Certainly we see it going on all over the world, in England and throughout Europe, as we are confronted with new ideas and ideals. What makes us a citizen of our country, of our histories and also of where we are headed? And what does that mean for the prospective immigrant, who leaves it behind for something new but equally as important and strong? Good stuff, here.


can you read Canadian papers in U.S? This article is from National Post.
Unfortunately the only U.S paper here I can read is "Wall Street Journal", not in region library, in one of local college...yep, i like reading wall street, since I play index funds too.

First English papers I have ever read is "New York Times" back to when I was 15 years old, probably understood less than 1%.. oh, and national geographic, i got one of it when I was 16, amzing those photo.
Departure Bay Wrote:can you read Canadian papers in U.S? This article is from National Post.


I read the Ottawa Citizen, The Globe and Mail, and the Toronto Star nearly every day--the online versions, of course. Ocassionally the Halifax Herald as well, for my maritime fix.
I happen to like Andrew Coyne and just about anything he rights. He almost always agrees with me :)

As you may have guessed, I am slightly patriotic. Maybe that is because I am born here and can say that I am the 5th generation on my fathers side that has never called another place home. I am a rare breed.

I agree that the discussion is moving to the front of the political agenda. The last time we had this type of discussion was back when Trudeau walked around with his Fedora and talked about his vision of Canada. It was compelling.

I hope our discussion does not become one of fear or backlash... but one of choosing to identify with our Canadian values, our world view, our ethics and our sense of community. I don't want my country to be a hotel and only a place to cherry pick for work or healthcare. I don't want people who do that do not become members of communities, philanthropists, civic leaders, sports coaches, symphony patrons etc. We need those people or the hotel we offer is going to become a very sterile and empty place!

I feel like the wind is changing directions. As much as it hurts to see coffins coming home from Afghanistan - there were 10,000 in Ottawa at a rally to support the Canadian troops. That would not have happened 10 years ago.

As much as some people do not care for our current Prime Minister... if he brings back as sense of national pride and responsibility, he will have done his job well.
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